Dillon Brooks and John Collins Scuffle Less Than Five Minutes Into Suns-Pistons Preseason Opener
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- 01What exactly happened in the first five minutes?
- 02Why did the review give Collins a flagrant and Brooks a technical?
- 03What did Collins say about it after the game?
- 04Why does a preseason scuffle involving Brooks draw this much attention?
- 05Was anyone ejected or suspended?
- 06What happens next for both players?
- 07What did Brooks say about it at practice on October 6?
The new NBA season is not a week old and Dillon Brooks already has his first review at the monitor. Less than five minutes into the Phoenix Suns’ preseason opener at the Detroit Pistons on Monday, Brooks and John Collins had to be separated in the paint, and a lengthy video review ended with Collins assessed a flagrant 1 and Brooks a technical foul, USA Today reports.
Update, October 6: Brooks has given his version at Suns practice, saying Collins tried to choke him and questioning why he was given a technical foul. The new section at the end of this article has the details.
What exactly happened in the first five minutes?
The clock read 7:23 in the first quarter. Brooks, in his second season with Phoenix, was guarding Collins in the paint with his usual physical approach, extending a forearm into him, the Arizona Republic reports. On the same possession Collins pulled down an offensive rebound over Brooks, who reached around him from behind chasing the ball.
Collins turned to face Brooks and put a hand into his face and neck area, with reports describing contact at the throat, Bleacher Report reports. Referees and security stepped in before it grew, with Miles Bridges and Devin Booker among the first Suns to reach Brooks, Arizona Sports reports.
Why did the review give Collins a flagrant and Brooks a technical?
Because the two calls punish different things. The officials first handed out double technicals, then used the review to split the sequence into instigation and escalation. Brooks’s repeated body contact stayed a technical. Collins’s contact to the head and neck area was upgraded to a flagrant 1, the category for unnecessary contact that falls short of the excessive contact that brings an ejection, as the site’s explainer on what a flagrant foul is in basketball sets out.
The practical difference showed immediately: Brooks went to the line and split two free throws, the Arizona Republic reports. The finer distinction between the two foul types, and why referees reach for one rather than the other, is covered in the guide to technical versus flagrant fouls.
What did Collins say about it after the game?
That he was glad it happened. Collins told reporters he was not necessarily trying to set that tone, but that he was glad he did, and that he intends to compete physically every night, Bleacher Report reports.
The context makes the quote land harder. Collins signed a three-year deal with Detroit in the offseason, Heavy reports, so his first game at Little Caesars Arena doubled as an introduction. A new starting forward telling his home crowd, in effect, that nobody will push him around in his own paint is the kind of first impression front offices quietly enjoy, even when it costs a flagrant.
Why does a preseason scuffle involving Brooks draw this much attention?
Because of the count he carries into every season. Brooks led the NBA with 17 technical fouls last season, USA Today reports, and his listed nickname on Basketball Reference is a reference to the villain role he has built across stops in Memphis, Houston and now Phoenix, Bleacher Report notes.
In the regular season that count has teeth: 16 technicals bring an automatic one-game suspension, with further suspensions every two technicals after that, and what counts as a technical foul in basketball is broad enough to include exactly the repeated off-ball contact Brooks specialises in. A preseason technical does not carry into that tally, Arizona Sports notes, which is the only reason Monday’s incident is a talking point rather than the first step toward a ban. This preseason has already produced one officiating storyline, when Scottie Barnes received the first push-off call under the NBA’s new emphasis; Brooks supplied the second, by a louder route.
Was anyone ejected or suspended?
No. Both players stayed in the game after the review, and no ejection followed because a flagrant 1, unlike a flagrant 2, does not require one. No suspension had been announced by either team or the league in the first wave of reporting.
That restraint is part of the story. The officials used the review to downgrade what the building briefly feared was a fight into two separate punishments, and the game continued. Detroit completed a comeback from 68-50 down at half-time to win 109-107, the Arizona Republic reports, in an exhibition whose result will be forgotten long before the clip of its fifth minute is.
What happens next for both players?
Brooks’s next test is simply repetition. Every crew in the league has now seen the Detroit tape, and a player with his reputation gets a shorter leash on borderline contact, as the fan-incident row that followed Sophie Cunningham telling A’ja Wilson to grow up showed in a different context this week: reputations travel faster than explanations.
Collins, meanwhile, has set an expectation he now has to meet across 82 games. Detroit reshaped its frontcourt around physicality this summer, and its new forward announced the terms in his first five minutes at home. The rematch dates will be circled for a reason that has nothing to do with the standings.
What did Brooks say about it at practice on October 6?
That he was the wronged party. Speaking after Tuesday’s practice in Chicago, Brooks walked through the sequence his way: Collins, embarrassed after trying to hit him and falling, got his hit in once a shot went up, and then, in Brooks’s words, “turns around, and tries to choke me, and put his hands on me,” the Arizona Republic reports.
His complaint is with his own punishment, not Collins’s. “That’s why I don’t get why I got the technical foul. I mean, I didn’t start nothing. I’m playing within the game,” Brooks said, adding that on calls like this he is “betting against the house.” The house, in his case, is a reputation built on a league-leading 17 technicals last season: officials review the player they know, and Brooks knows it.
He was not the only star publicly disputing an official story this week. In Philadelphia, LeBron James denied on Instagram that he had called out Joel Embiid for being late to practice, telling followers to “stop the lies.” The two rematches now carry dates as well as grievances: Phoenix visits Detroit on December 16 and hosts the Pistons on February 10, the Arizona Republic reports.
Frequently asked questions
What happened between Dillon Brooks and John Collins in Detroit?+
Less than five minutes into the preseason opener on October 5, Brooks guarded Collins physically in the paint, then reached around him after Collins took an offensive rebound. Collins turned to face Brooks and put a hand into his face and neck area with the ball still in play, USA Today reports, and referees and security separated them.
What fouls were called on Brooks and Collins?+
The first call was a double technical. After a lengthy video review, officials changed the ruling: Collins received a flagrant 1 penalty and Brooks kept a technical foul, the Arizona Republic reports. Brooks then went to the free-throw line and split the pair of attempts that followed the flagrant ruling.
Why did Collins get a flagrant and Brooks only a technical?+
Because the review separated the instigation from the escalation. Brooks's repeated contact was judged technical-foul behaviour, while Collins making contact with the head and neck area met the flagrant 1 standard of unnecessary contact. The distinction between the two calls is the same one that separates a technical from a flagrant foul under NBA rules.
Did John Collins say anything about the scuffle afterwards?+
Yes. Collins told reporters he was not necessarily trying to set a tone but was glad he did, adding that he will compete physically every night, Bleacher Report reports. The game was his first in Detroit after signing a three-year deal with the Pistons in the offseason, so the exchange doubled as an introduction to the home crowd.
How many technical fouls did Dillon Brooks get last season?+
Brooks led the NBA with 17 technical fouls last season, USA Today and Bleacher Report report. That reputation is why a first-week preseason incident draws attention: in the regular season, a player is suspended for one game at 16 technicals and for every two more after that, so his count is tracked from opening night.
Does a preseason technical count toward a regular-season suspension?+
No. Preseason technicals do not carry into the regular-season accumulation that triggers an automatic suspension, Arizona Sports notes. Brooks therefore starts the season with a clean count, but the video review habit matters: the same sequence in a game that counts would move him one step closer to the 16-technical suspension line.
What did Brooks say about the scuffle at practice on October 6?+
Brooks told reporters in Chicago that Collins felt embarrassed after falling, then 'turns around, and tries to choke me, and put his hands on me,' the Arizona Republic reports. He questioned his own technical foul, saying, 'I didn't start nothing. I'm playing within the game,' and added that on the call he was 'betting against the house.'
Who won the Suns-Pistons preseason game?+
Detroit did, 109-107, after Phoenix led 68-50 at half-time, the Arizona Republic reports. The result is background here: an exhibition comeback mattered less than the opening minutes, when two starting forwards were separated by officials in a game with nothing in the standings at stake.
Sources
- USA Today: Dillon Brooks, John Collins involved in dustup in Suns-Pistons preseason game
- Arizona Republic via azcentral.com: Dillon Brooks, John Collins early dustup in Suns-Pistons game
- Arizona Sports: Dillon Brooks takes 5 minutes to get into NBA preseason scuffle
- Bleacher Report: John Collins Grabs Dillon Brooks by Throat, Reacts to Fight After Pistons vs. Suns Preseason Game
- Heavy: Pistons Newcomer Gets Into Altercation With Suns Enforcer
- Arizona Republic via azcentral.com: Suns' Dillon Brooks says Pistons' John Collins tried to choke him (October 6 practice comments)
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